[78-L] Accent you hate [FWD]

Malcolm Rockwell malcolm at 78data.com
Sat Jun 13 10:02:52 PDT 2009


It was a passing thought that deserved a ^ for being non-78L related. 
I'm sure we're both right to one degree or another but this certainly is 
not the forum to discuss it on. I'll let you know if our ponderings lead 
anywhere should I decide to actually do some research!
Thanks,
Mal

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Mike Harkin wrote:
> Plus, settlers in the different colonies came from different parts of England, so their 'British' accents would be different, which would affect
> changes after they got here, burning into different 'American' accents:-
> Boston, Charleston, Seaward Islands, New York  &c&c.  I seriously doubt the
> accuracy of anglo renderings of Indian words; they added to vocabulary, but somehow I doubt that Indian languages affected pronunciation.
>
> Mike in Plovdiv
>
> --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Malcolm Rockwell <malcolm at 78data.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Malcolm Rockwell <malcolm at 78data.com>
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Accent you hate  [FWD]
>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 9:31 AM
>> Hmmm... I wonder just how much
>> influence the languages of the various 
>> "indian" tribes white settlers came into contact with had
>> in shaping 
>> British English as spoken in that time into American
>> English? If so, 
>> accent and pronunciation would change according to where
>> the settlements 
>> were located, geographically. Could explain a lot.
>> Mal
>>
>> *******
>>
>> Mike Harkin wrote:
>>     
>>>   Bud Black wrote:
>>>    
>>>       
>>>>> It always amuses me to watch an old movie
>>>>>           
>> where the actors are portraying
>>     
>>>>> the great statesmen of early American history,
>>>>>           
>> and hearing George Washington
>>     
>>>>>   Benjamin Franklyn, or Thomas Jefferson
>>>>>           
>> speaking in good old Americanese,
>>     
>>>>> when in all probability they all spoke with a
>>>>>           
>> pronounced English accent, not
>>     
>>>>> being that far removed from the mother
>>>>>           
>> country.
>>     
>>>>>        
>>>>>           
>>> Many years ago Masterpiece Theatre ran an adaption of
>>>       
>> Last of the Mohicans;
>>     
>>> at first I thought it funny that alll the Indians had
>>>       
>> British accents, till I realised that probably we all had
>> British accents....  Or at least the remnants of one,
>> as I understand that by Irving's time Brits were deriding
>> Americans' strange accents.  It sure would have been
>> nice to have had the phonograph/gramophone back then!
>>     
>>> Then there's Jean Marsh, who Alastair Cooke told us
>>>       
>> during the first run of Upstairs, Downstairs was a true
>> Cockney.  Which means she probably spent millions of
>> pounds on elocution lessons to get rid of her Cockney
>>     
>>> accent....  So which was her most famous
>>>       
>> part?  Rose, the Cockney 'ousemide'!  Go know!
>>     
>>> Mike in Plovdiv  
>>>
>>>    
>>>       





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