[78-L] What WILL they think of next? Hey, I know..78s

[I. Cubillo]

Lennick: I'm not an expert on this area... That's what they've told me.
Maybe you can read between lines and clarify this. It seems that there's
some kind of legal trouble if you make a copy of the disc on CD, and then
air the copy. Perhaps a sort of legal breaking to the original mechanical
copyright of the disc, already expired. If you make a new copy form the
original, you're breaking the copy prohibition, could it be this? It's the
case that the mech. copt. had expired, but not the prohibition to make
copies, as this is a way of reissuing the recording. It sounded to me as if
you air the very same record whose mech. copt. has expired, there's no
trouble at all, but if you make new copies, those copies are tied to the
recording copyright... The only thing that has expired is the mechanical
copyright of the original 78rpm disc.

Maybe that if you make copies of the disc, they become illegal, so you
couldn't legally air them. Dunno...

It's clear that, leaving apart the will of these guys who prefer to use the
original shellacs, they're absolutely sure that if they air the original
78s, there's no legal trouble to be afraid of.

Iñigo Cubillo




----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: [78-L] What WILL they think of next? Hey, I know..78s


> Inigo had an interesting point about disc jockeys in Spain playing 78s and
> having to play them live to air. What kind of weird copyright situation
doesn't
> allow for them to be transferred to digital, tape or LP? If the original
sound
> recording is out of copyright, it's out of copyright. I've never heard of
a
> situation like this.
>
> dl
>
> Michael Biel wrote:
> > Steve's comment makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AT ALL (caps appropriate).
> > This eliminates almost all V-Discs, all Young Peoples Records/Childrens
> > Record Guild, Vogues, many Cosmo, Atlantic, RCA Victor, and thousands of
> > other records on other labels in the 1940s into the early 50s.  There
> > were plastic 78s dating back to the Columbia Marconi pressings of 1906.
> > Victor issued some 78 pressings in the 30s on Victrolac which WAS vinyl,
> > and the 10 and 12-inch Victor Home Recording Discs were also
> > Victrolac/Vinyl.  Edison Diamond Discs were not shellac -- the earliest
> > were celluloid on a wood flour core and the later ones were condensite
> > on a china clay core.
> >
> > I know this is difficult, but it might be helpful to THINK before
> > posting.  (By the way, dl and Ingo's postings were discussing the state
> > of vinyl LPs, not 78s.)
> >
> > Mike Biel   mbiel at mbiel.com
> >
> >
> > From: "I. Cubillo" <i.cubillo at telefonica.net>
> >> Here in Spain more or less it's happening the same. Never vinyl has
> >> dissapeared completely... They've been regularly issuing vinyl for such
> >> music as independent groups, small editors, and the like.
> >>
> >
> > From: "Steven C. Barr" <stevenc at interlinks.net>
> > So...why doesn't someone set up a SHELLAC pressing facility...?!
> >
> > To me, 10" 78rpm vinyl phonorecords DO not...and CAN not...qualify
> > as "78's!" In fact, I own a 10" vinyl phonorecord cut at 78rpm...which
> > is STEREO...from 1968; the other phonorecord in the related set is
> > supposed to be QUADRAPHONIC (dunno if this is/was ALSO
> > cut at 78rpm...?!)
> >
> > FEH!!
> >
> > ...stevenc
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