[78-L] 78-L Digest, Vol 8, Issue 15

[Jim Whipkey]

Wow,  not only a lot of  great information, but  speedy too. Thanks!
Yes, it is a 12 inch turntable and  I looked on the bottom, no sign of any
paper, patent number or license  info.   The  label on the side is  pretty
tarnished, I got  out the big magnifying glass and  a flashlight and now I
think  I've read the number  pretty accurately.  Don't know where I got the
dash, there's none there now.  The number  appears to be 167246F.  I've
looked  as carefully as I can,  thinking maybe part of the letter was worn
off, first it looked like a B, then  maybe a P, but  really think it's an F.
Also can make out Victor talking Machine Co. Camden, New Jersey USA.
There's also something etched in the label  above the numbers and below  the
dogs legs, cannot make it out.   Maybe next week I will be able to see it,
having a  minor tuneup on my eyes  next Wednesday, with a laser.   Thanks
again for all the  helpful information, and  what was that line about a
bench in my car?  Thought I said I  stopped before I got to the car and put
the victrola on a bench.  Thanks again Guys.
Jim Whipkey

> From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Found an old crank victrola
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> Is the sheet of paper with the patent and license info still on the
> bottom of the case?  Some of them have a place for the serial number to
> be written in, and this might confirm if that dash is just a partial
> strike of a number.  A four-digit serial number for a popular Victrola
> model is unusual (although my Victrola IV is serial number 1048, and my
> Victrola XI is numbered in the 13xxx region.)  Yours is more likely
> 1672446B.  Is your turntable 10 or 12-inches as per the info about the
> change that Baumbach's listing notes?  Also, is the oiling instruction
> sheet still inside the machine?  I suggest that you protect these
> sheets, especially the corners where the printing date and form numbers
> are.  I take a sheet of plastic, cut it to a little larger than the
> sheet, and tape the plastic over the sheet without putting any of the
> tape on the paper.
>
> Mike Biel   mbiel at mbiel.com
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> On 5/6/09, Jim Whipkey <suuford at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey, 78 listers, I went to an auction last night and surprised myself
> > immensely by making the successful high bid on an old table model
> > Victrola. I have several turntables to play my 78s, but this is the
> > first vintage crank machine I've touched since playing with my
> > Grandparent's big floor model victrola many decades ago. It will stay in
> > my house until my heirs dispose of it, but I'm hoping some of you can
> > give me some history on the machine. It works fine, I couldn't wait till
> > I got it to my car, plopped it down on a bench, cranked, turned the
switch
> > and voila, the record which came with it, a Victor 12 incher labeled
> > "gems from the Mikado" on both sides, played great. The needle needs
> > replaced and I've already ordered new ones. The cabinet is light color
> > wood, I would guess oak. Just can't believe everything works and is in
> > great shape. The label on the side says Victor and also says VV-VI
> > 1672-46B. Is this enough for anyone to help me identify any information
> > about it?
> > Jim Whipkey
>
>
> From: Royal Pemberton <ampex354 at gmail.com>
>
>
> Info from LOOK FOR THE DOG by Robert Baumbach:
>
> The model you have was made from 1911 to 1926 and sold for between $25
> and $35. It's similar to the Victrola IV except for a larger oak
> cabinet and a double-spring motor. These features made it $10 more
> expensive than the IV.
>
> In May 1913 the VI was remodeled with a 'suspended horn amplifying
> chamber' (the horn thus floating within the cabinet rather than
> attached to it) and a 12 inch turntable replaced the 10 inch.
>
> In November 1918 the cabinet was redesigned to include a removable
> motor board (earlier, the entire top was hinged) and now the VI was
> also available in mahogany.
>
> The VI is equipped with an Exhibition sound box and nickel-plated
> hardware.
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