[78-L] How well did they do it.

Thu Apr 30 10:51:42 PDT 2009

I agree with Taylor; that's my style. I adore everything that sounds OK (in
the right moment, in the right mood).
I've told you in the past... I keep uglies stored in boxes in the basement.
>From time to time, I took up home one of those boxes, just to browse what I
kept there... and I'm always surprised that ev'ry one keeps 4 or 5 good 78s.
They're in the box because they were considered uglies at a given moment,
but the way you can appreciate them varies with the day, the mood you're in,
etc.

Aaaaah... those good ole' 78s!

Iñigo Cubillo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Taylor Bowie" <bowiebks at isomedia.com>
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [78-L] How well did they do it.

> Bill's question is an interesting one.  I grew up with various kinds of
> music around the house (I am 56) and was entranced by rock when I was very
> small (like age 4-5).   My dad played in dance bands around town and loved
> Goodman and Basie,  as well as some of the newer big bands like
> Sauter-Finnegan and the Elgarts.  He started buying a lot of LPs when the
> family got our big blonde hi-fi in late '56 so then came Broadway show
> albums,  Charlie Parker on Verve, Joe Bushkin piano solo albums on
Capitol,
> bits of classical stuff.  When he bought an actual stereo in 1960 then
came
> all those tricky stereo albums on Command but which showed off a lot of
> great NY studio musicians.  When I inherited my parents' box of 78s at age
> 10 I discovered and rediscovered good stuff by Boyd Raeburn,  Shaw,
> Goodman,  and (from my mothers' stuff) Jan Garber,  Four Chicks and Chuck
> (on Cosmo),   Lombardo,  etc.
>
> Seeing an opera live for the first time at age eight got me cranked up on
> that as well.  Ditto going to the symphony as a kid...I liked it all!
>
> After that,  I started picking up anything and everything that looked
> interesting on 78...and which cost ten cents or less.  That was everything
> from JW Meyers on Zonophone to the McGuire Sisters on Coral.
>
> And I tried to listen to all of it to see what I could "get" out of
it...and
> that's what I try to do now.  Over the last year I've bought 78s from as
> early as 1904 to as late as the early 50s.  I go heaviest for dance bands
> and some jazz,  but I enjoy finding the good stuff wherever my ears take
me.
> No borders,  no boundaries....I just want to listen,  and I think I've
still
> got lots to learn.  I've really lost most of my taste for rock but even
> there,  I can still get excited with the right band and when I'm in the
> right mood.
>
> Taylor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill McClung" <bmcclung at ix.netcom.com>
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] How well did they do it.
>
>
> >A question I have pondered for awhile is, "Why don't I have an 'ear' for
> > many 78s recorded before 19XX?"  I love my postwar 78s and many "modern"
> > sounding prewar 78s but oftentimes when my fellow 78Lers are debating
the
> > relative glories of Vaughn de Leath or What is Sweet I am lost because
the
> > music being debated doesn't excite me and I haven't explored it.
> >
> > This is in no way a value judgement or a question of what is "good" or
> > "valuable".   I'm not really asking about genres.  I'm asking about
sound.
> > And the components of one's personal "ear".
> >
> > Is it pre-electric guitar versus post-electric guitar?  Is it sweet band
> > versus swing versus bebop?   Again, not genres but sound.
> >
> > Is it what one heard growing up?  Is it the music a person first claimed
> > as
> > one's own?  Is it historical as in the knowledge that one's favorite
band
> > leader was once a sideman in an earlier band or that someone was a
mentor
> > or influence?  Is it because you are a musician?
> >
> > I love Emmitt Miller and Annie Ross, Gid Tanner and Merle Travis, early
> > Louis and late Louis. Harlem Hamfats and the Treniers.  Blind Blake and
> > Mickey Baker. Some Ethel Waters and most Muddy Waters.
> >
> > But there is a huge range of music that just hasn't touched me yet.  I
can
> > approach it academically but not emotionally.  My "ear" just doesn't
> > respond.
> >
> > Has the march of time changed what you like or what excites you
musically?
> > Is there a time or a sound that just doesn't work for you?  How many
eras
> > are there in 78s history and which ones have you embraced?
> >
> > I'll hang up and listen.
> >
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: warren moorman <wlmoorman3 at yahoo.com>
> >> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >> Date: 4/29/2009 4:57:53 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] How well did they do it.
> >>
> >>
> >> This is certainly an issue for listeners, but let me mention a similar
> > thing from the other direction. Psychologists have suggested that for
some
> > longtime performers, part of the reinforcing lure of a performing life
is
> > that the actual sound of applause (or for comics, laughter) is literally
> > the same over time, and thus offers the illusion of having suspended the
> > march of time.
> >>
> >> Warren
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 4/29/09, soundthink at aol.com <soundthink at aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: soundthink at aol.com <soundthink at aol.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: [78-L] How well did they do it.
> >> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >> > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 2:45 PM
> >> > When I was in New York recently, I saw Vince Giordano &
> >> > his Nighthawks perform at Club Cache. The musicians are all
> >> > seasoned studio performers,?most play on period instruments,
> >> > and the group uses original charts - for me, that's as
> >> > close as I will get to hearing what a '20s jazz/dance
> >> > band might have sounded like.
> >> >
> >> > Cary Ginell
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: DAVID BURNHAM <burnhamd at rogers.com>
> >> > To: 78-L at 78online.com
> >> > Sent: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 2:42 pm
> >> > Subject: [78-L] How well did they do it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ?I've been thinking about exactly how accurately
> >> > recordings were able to capture
> >> > the sounds of the 20s, over 80 years ago.?? It's almost
> >> > impossible to compare a
> >> > recording with the original sound.? Any singers which were
> >> > around then who might
> >> > still be here certainly don't have the same voice.?
> >> > Orchestras develop over the
> >> > years and don't sound like they did 80 years ago.? I
> >> > don't think any concert
> >> > hall or recording studio has remained unchanged for that
> >> > time.? Even if we could
> >> > find instruments which were used on recordings then, the
> >> > artists are all gone
> >> > and the instruments also change with time.? One may find a
> >> > pipe organ that
> >> > hasn't been modified in 80 years but I can't think
> >> > of one which was recorded
> >> > back then which might still sound the same - Temple church
> >> > was bombed in WWII,
> >> > Royal Albert Hall's organ and acoustics have changed
> >> > drastically since then.? I
> >> > don't know if Mark Andrews', Jesse
> >> > Crawford's?or Lew White's organs are still
> >> > around.?
> >> >  Choruses and choirs, of course are constantly changing.?
> >> >
> >> > What brought this thought to mind was that I was listening
> >> > to records the other
> >> > day recorded in 1927 which, I believe, are unique in that
> >> > they are probably a
> >> > few of the only recordings which can be compared today the
> >> > their original
> >> > source.? Those are the 5 Victor sides which are?recordings
> >> > of the Carillon, (to
> >> > avoid the word "Biels),?at the Victory Tower, Ottawa,
> >> > (now the Peace Tower).?
> >> > I've heard that Carillon many times and it's
> >> > interesting to compare the
> >> > recordings to the sound of the Carillon.
> >> >
> >> > db
> >> >
> >> > P.S. as soon as I finished this letter I imagined some
> >> > mention of Herbert Von
> >> > Carillon, so I'm glad I got that out of the way
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