[78-L] Good post from fnarf
Taylor Bowie
bowiebks at isomedia.com
Sun Apr 12 15:49:42 PDT 2009
Hi Al,
My point was that the Hill performance is in the style of many sweet bands
of the era, and better than many, including much of the output of the
bands you mention. Also that there are not very many recordings of black
bands of the era that are so close to standard pop stuff.
Taylor
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>> Taylor Bowie wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> One of my favorite mid-30s "sweet band" records is the Teddy Hill Orch.
>>> version of Got Me Doin' Things, with clipped muted brass, hotel-band
>>> tenor
>>> sax (by Chu Berry!?!?!), and a wonderful "business man's bounce" from
>>> the
>>> rhythm section. And a totally wonderful "sweet band" vocal from
>>> trumpeter
>>> Bill Dillard...I love his singing. A great record by any measure, and
>>> it
>>> makes me wish that other black bands had gotten more of a chance to
>>> record
>>> this kind of pop commercial arrangement...I'm sure they played them at
>>> live
>>> gigs.
>>
>>>
>>> Taylor
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>> That performance sounds more like Will Osborne to me. And didn't Berry
>> admire Freddy Martin?
>>
>> Julian Vein
>
> Hmmm. admittedly these distinctions (sweet or hot) are subjective, and
> although the performance in question is not precisely "hot' ,...it is not,
> in my opinion, anything close to something played by a "sweet" or "hotel"
> band. Hill had a swinging big band with a full and well articulated brass
> section and good reeds.
> Bill Dillard's vocal was no more "sweet" than thousands of run-of-the-mill
> swing era big band vocals, By the mid and late thirties the "sounds' made
> by
> Guy Lombardo or Blue Baron and Tommy Tucker were those made by sweet
> bands.
> If you play a Teddy Hill record and compare to those bands I think you'll
> gratefully hear one hell of a difference.
>
> Al Simmons
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