[78-L] unstable records, was CV records

joe@salerno.com jsalerno at earthlink.net
Mon Mar 23 06:43:39 PDT 2009


OK, I didn't know, it's not what I collect. Maybe a change in horns?

Some of this sounds like accommodating the limitations of the recording 
medium....and they may have assumed that between side breaks, most 
people wouldn't catch the difference.

joe salerno

David Lennick wrote:
> It's acoustical..July and August 1922. But long separations between sides can
> make for interesting differences, like the third side of the first movement of
> Tchaikovsky's Fifth Symphony with Rodzinski and the Cleveland Orchestra..about
> a 3 or 4 week gap and the tempo is vastly different on side 3. William
> Steinberg's Shostakovich Seventh Symphony on Musicraft has a definite mike
> shift between two sides, but that recording is also a composite of studio takes
> and a live performance (and some different takes were used on the LP reissue).
> 
> Another notorious tempo change between sides: Ravel's Bolero, Koussevitzky and
> the Boston Symphony..side 3 is substantially faster (not higher in pitch)
> because they had a lot of music to squeeze onto one side.
> 
> Another pitch shift between sides: Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, Stokowski &
> Philadelphia (1935)..sides 3 and 4 are cut 5 weeks apart and side 4 is a half
> tone sharp.
> 
> dl
> 
> joe at salerno.com wrote:
>> Maybe they changed mic - being recorded so far apart they didn't realize 
>> the error, or didn't care...
>>
>> joe salerno
>>
>>
>> Sammy Jones wrote:
>>> I hadn't considered that they changed studios, but the sound certainly does
>>> change from one side to the next.  Is there any indication in the Victor
>>> ledgers as to why the sides were recorded so far apart and if/why one was
>>> dubbed?
>>>
>>> Sammy
>>>
>>>
>>> David Lennick wrote:
>>>> Actually it also sounds as if it changes studios. I suspect that one
>>>> side is
>>>> dubbed..the sides were also recorded four weeks apart.
>>>>
>>>> dl
>>>>
>>>> Sammy Jones wrote:
>>>>> Gallagher and Shean's recording of "Positively, Mr.
>>>> Gallagher?/Absolutely,
>>>>> Mr. Shean!" on Victor 18941 appears to change keys at the side
>>>> change.  I
>>>>> have no idea which is correct!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sammy
> 
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