[78-L] What's the story on Victor 17959?

[Bob Rice]

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From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
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> Hey.."I'm Glad My Wife's In Europe" bordered on the sick, too.
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> dl
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> Taylor Bowie wrote:
>> Just seems odd to me that, after the sinking of the Lusitania,  how 
>> anyone
>> could issue any sort of comic song about U-Boats...more than 100 
>> Americans
>> lost their lives when she sank.
>>
   But in the 1915 "hit" Columbia "The Sinking of the Liusitania" NOWHERE 
was it mentioned a submarine! The pitch was;" American Ships, who sail from 
our slips are safer for you and me. A Yankee can go anywhere as long as Old 
Glory is There" Ya think they, the songwriter coulda gotten in something 
about "your Damn U -boats!"Line  from Tell it to the Marines?" Billy Murray 
or Al Jolson?They DID give a "Damn" back then! The whole Damn Family<g>!

    Humor from a different era, I guess?"Dancing in that old Submarine? 
Hell! It wasn't THAT old as sub tech was moving right along?Diseasel subs in 
WW1!Ours were gas rigs! Top speed 12 knots or so. The Lucy SOULDA/Coulda run 
away and hid from any U boat! Or run over it,if she saw it first! There is 
another Sub record about a collision with a Sub,by a passenger liner, in the 
20's? The sub was wrecked with loss of life?

    Sea ya

    Bob
>> Taylor
>>
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>> From: "simmonssomer" <simmonssomer at comcast.net>
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>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 6:39 PM
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>>> Turns out the Lusitania was indeed transporting munitions sub rosa.
>>> But it wasn't the U-17 that did her in. It was the U-20.
>>>
>>>
>>> Al Simmons
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>>> From: <davdieh at aol.com>
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>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:49 PM
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>>>
>>>> On May 7 1916 the NY Times ran a picture of the "Goetz medal," a German
>>>> propaganda piece designed to justify the sinking of the Lusitania one
>>>> year
>>>> previously. It was reprinted in many periodicals and stirred up a lot 
>>>> of
>>>> anti-German sentiment. Probably torpedoed Billy's little joke.
>>>> David Diehl
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>>>> I was browsing the EDVR and came across a song by Billy Murray entitled
>>>> "Down in the U-17", subtitled in the ledgers (but possibly not on the
>>>> record)
>>>> as "A Musical Torpedo". Curiosity piqued, I looked up the catalogue
>>>> number
>>>> it was issued under: Vic 17959, issued in April 1916 and deleted just a
>>>> month
>>>> later! I found a recording of it at
>>>> ?
>>>> http://turtleservices.com/downu-17.htm
>>>> ?
>>>> The fact that it's about a German submarine crew having a merry old 
>>>> time
>>>> could certainly have ruffled enough feathers to make Victor have second
>>>> thoughts,
>>>> but does anyone know for sure? Did Victor themselves make the decision,
>>>> or
>>>> were there complaints from record buyers? I guess I've wondered the 
>>>> same
>>>> thing
>>>> about Jan Garber's recording of "How Could Red Riding Hood?" that was
>>>> also apparently withdrawn, even though?quite a few?other bands and
>>>> singers
>>>> recorded it without much apparent fuss.
>>>> ?
>>>> -Harold
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