[78-L] You never answered Chris Zwarg's question

Bud Black banjobud at cfl.rr.com
Sat Jan 24 11:23:56 PST 2009


What ever became of the term "mulatto?"  Has it also become one of our PC 
no-no" words?  Our new president is also half white, is he not?  So what the
hell is the difference?

Bud 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: fnarf at comcast.net
Date: 1/23/2009 7:30:53 PM
To: 78-L Mail List
Subject: Re: [78-L] You never answered Chris Zwarg's question
 
The more you write the more apparent it is that your "apology" was nothing
of the kind, and your coquettish refusal to even countenance the possibility
that there might be some other reason to believe that "nigger president"
besides a surplus of sensitivity is extremely tiresome -- more so than the
original statement. It is obvious that you did indeed intent to offend; that
asterisk admits it.
 
As for your supposed elucidation, it rings hollow. You can pretend to not
understand why electing a black man to the presidency of a country that once
would have enslaved him, in a city where within living memory he would not
have been permitted to sit at lunch counters, in a house that was BUILT BY
SLAVES, but I don't believe it. I don't think anyone, even a German, can be
that ignorant.
 
I'll tell you, your dishonesty is more offensive than your race-baiting.
 
I don't care what your wishes for our new president are. It is just as
offensive to say he was elected because of his skin color as it is to call
him a nigger -- less obviously so to some, but not to me. Nothing you have
said since then has changed my opinion on this; indeed, every message you
send digs that hole deeper. And deeper, and deeper. I was willing to let it
go at one point, but you keep hammering away at it. You protesteth too much,
I'd say.
 
Fortunately, mindsets like yours are fading from the world. Most people are
looking forward to that future.
 
--
Steve.
 
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Chris Zwarg <doctordisc at truesoundtransfers.de>
>
> >  << ... I find nothing ugly or dislikeable about the characters or the
events
> recounted in this song, nor anything that would induce any negative or
> aggressive emotion ... >>
> >  ?
> >  Yeah, I understand that. But then, you're the guy who referred to
President
> Obama the other day as "your n*gger president" so it's fair to say you're
not in
> a great position from which to speak with convincing moral authority on
this
> issue.
>
> Why not? I was and I am honest, I called the man what he indisputedly is
from
> all the photos I have seen, only USED A WRONG WORD TO EXPRESS IT. I have
> apologized for that and I do not consider it fair that you delight in
repeating
> it over and over again. I should have rephrased my yesterday's statement
> somthing like "President Obama, now he's Afro-American, I know, and
everybody
> thinks that's wonderful, but I find it pretty stupid that you have
apparently
> begun to judge your presidents by their skin colour. I'd like to see him
to do
> well in Office, and then it's early enough to praise him, isn't it?"
>
> What's "immoral" about that stance even you won't be able to explain to me
 Tom.
> (I hope you haven't got nephews, or some really awful puns might follow at
this
> point, the way I have got to know this list...)
>
> Chris Zwarg
>
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