[78-L] RCA Victor reverse side "spider web" etching name?

[David Weiner]

Did RCA officially call the back design a "spider web" or is that just
collector terminology? It just as easily could be called "lace doily"
design.

Dave W.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of David Lennick
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Subject: Re: [78-L] RCA Victor reverse side "spider web" etching name?

I think they began to add the bonus piece later, and many old sets had a
filler 
piece added in the later pressings. Bonus pieces often were left behind when

the albums were reissued on LP..sometimes they'd be gathered into collection

LPs, sometimes they just became memories.

dl

Randy Watts wrote:
> Is that why some classical sets throw in a "bonus" piece rather than have
an odd number of sides and the last disc in the set single-sided?
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 1/7/09, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
>> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] RCA Victor  reverse side "spider web" etching name?
>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 9:18 PM
>> Matter of fact, the discs with the design and a groove
>> running through them 
>> tended to break more easily because of the deep groove. At
>> a time when Red 
>> Seals cost $2 per disc and single discs from album sets
>> were very reluctantly 
>> sold by dealers, collectors learned to keep the odd disc
>> INSIDE the album 
>> instead of at the front or back where it could succumb to
>> pressure. Check out 
>> the library collections with Bruckner's 7th Symphony
>> with a broken last disc. 
>> (I learned this from Dick Burns as he was TAPING the last
>> movement for me, not 
>> loaning it to me.)
>>
>> dl
>>
>> Malcolm Rockwell wrote:
>>> Okay, then how about possible added structural
>> integrity? Wouldn't a 
>>> disc with a design be less apt to break than one with
>> a plain, flat side?
>>> M
>>>
>>> *******
>>>
>>> Martha wrote:
>>>> The millions of single-faced pressings which play
>> fine would tend to counter 
>>>> this idea...    None of mine have ever slipped on
>> the turntable, nor run at 
>>>> off-speeds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "joe at salerno.com"
>> <jsalerno at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "78-L Mail List"
>> <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] RCA Victor reverse side
>> "spider web" etching name?
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>> As it was explained, I think by Dr. Biel, they
>> needed something in the
>>>>> press so that the bisquit would run properly
>> as it melted. Hence you
>>>>> sometimes find transcriptions with a silent
>> groove on the blank side
>>>>>     
>>>> ______________
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