[78-L] A Peter & The Wolf discussion and NO posts from Mike Biel? Hope he's well

joe@salerno.com jsalerno at earthlink.net
Wed Jan 7 13:20:02 PST 2009


We need a version in Thai, complete with slave girls.....(this will 
require some 'splainin')

joe salerno

Michael Biel wrote:
> 
> 
> Steve Ramm wrote:
>>> I'm afraid I didn't real all the posts but noted that there were NO replies from Mike
>>> "Call mE Mr. Peter & The Wolf" Biel.
>>> Assume he's in transit somewhere ;-) Hope he's okay?
> 
>> He was just here yesterday.  dl
> 
> 
> Yes, yes, yes.  I'm here.  Mike Biel reporting for duty.  I WAS in
> transit, driving down to Birmingham in the midst of a monsoon.  TODAY
> its nice and sunny.  I was supposed to have beat the rain by leaving
> Monday.  I shudda stayed home and gone to the birthday party of one of
> my former students, gotten my new glasses that arrived at the store this
> morning, and driven down today.  Drat.
> 
> 
>>> There is NO PATW discussion that Mike can't resolve.
>>> Steve (not a big fan of PATW) Ramm <vbg>
> 
> OK.  Let's see where we are.  The wolf has eaten the duck (or, as I
> mentioned a few weeks ago, in the Soviet cartoon version the wolf has
> eaten the cat), Peter is stuck up in the tree, but has a rope. 
> 
>> At one time I had the famous Peanuts strip on the wall
>> ("I hope the wolf eats him").  dl
> 
> I MUST find that cartoon.  Anyway, let's see where we are now.  Peter
> has this rope, and most of the Russians are hoping that Stalin will walk
> by.  Perhaps a Soviet version of Strange Fruit could result.  By the
> way, do you realize that in Prokofiev's Russian language narration he
> calls the hero "Pioneer Peter"?  Petya was a loyal member of the "Young
> Pioneers" and should be pictured wearing the red tie.  
> 
> I agree that Richard Hale is a weird choice of narrator, and if some did
> not get David's reference to the Ides of March, Hale was the blind
> soothsayer in the Marlon Brando film of "Big Julie Gets It In The
> Rotunda".  The Sherrif of Baker St. was not much of a better choice for
> Stoki's recording, and I suppose he thought better of it when using
> Captain Clarabelle for the Vanguard LP.  Actually, the best choice of
> the three early complete recordings on 78s was the second one, Frank
> Luther on Decca, although that is the rarest of the three.  When I
> worked on finding the recording dates I was surprised to see a gap of a
> year from Hale to Luther, then another year before Rathbone.  Of course
> the real surprise was to find that no Russian recording was made till 47
> or 48 and that there have only been three more ever since then.  
> 
> The Crane Calder on Allegro was not very common.  I had never heard of
> it or him until a friend of mine issued a pirate CD of it, and I had to
> have him check the original 78 to give me the info.  I've since gotten a
> copy of it, fortunately not for the price mentioned a couple of days
> ago.  On 78s in addition to Lady Eleanor, you might want to look for
> Milton Cross on Musicraft because it uses Prokofiev's original piano
> reduction of the score.  It also takes the unusual path of doing it on
> four 10-inchers.
> 
> Sterling Halloway did record it several times as David indicated.  There
> are four or five configurations of it on RCA Victor 78s and a completely
> different recording on Disneyland LP.  I haven't done an A-B check yet,
> but I think that recording is also different from the movie soundtrack. 
> So that makes three.  
> 
> When I get home I need to check with dl to see if I have the Swedish and
> Spanish ones he mentions.  I've got it in Korean, two different Chinese
> dialects, a bunch in Hebrew.  No Arabic or African languages yet.  Or
> Native American either.  Wouldn't it be impressive to have it done in
> Navahoe?  None have been done in any language of the old Soviet Union
> other than the four in Russian.  
> 
> Were there any other questions yet that I didn't answer?
> 
> Mike  mbiel at mbiel.com  
> 
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