[78-L] Dates on AFRS transcriptions

joe@salerno.com jsalerno at earthlink.net
Sun Jan 4 17:47:54 PST 2009


This ads more mystery to the thing. What AFRS set is it that contains 
the Kapell/Rodzinski?

C'mon, you knew I was going to ask, for discographical purposes at least...

joe salerno


David Lennick wrote:
> That's odd, because I HAVE the Kapell-Rodzinski Rhapsody on AFRS (and on 
> V-Disc)..they must have split the concert. I think there was half a Mahler 
> Symphony on the same set of discs. I sent Richard Rodzinski a copy, since he 
> didn't have this program.
> 
> dl
> 
> joe at salerno.com wrote:
>> Don't know about popular, but in the case of classical AFRS ET dates are 
>> MOSTLY correct, as far as I know. I've documented one instance in which 
>> they substituted material without a note on the date.
>>
>> This instance was the Oct 28, 1945 performance of the Paganini Rhapsody 
>> with Kapell/Rodzinski/NYPS. This performance was issued on V-Discs. On 
>> the AFRS release of the same concert, the orchestral selections are 
>> there, but Kapell is nowhere to be found. For his portion they 
>> substituted the Strauss Burlesque with Arrau from a few weeks before. 
>> That additional date is not given in the run out, like anyone cared, nor 
>> does the announcer mention the fact that there was a different conductor 
>> for the Strauss on that other date, whose name I am not thinking of at 
>> the moment.
>>
>> I have wondered if the AFRS & V-Disc producers cooperated in such 
>> matters to avoid redundancy in sending material to the troops, or if 
>> this was the decision of some conscientious program planner, or an 
>> accident. I've never encountered this any other instance, or known of 
>> some incident to check on.
>>
>> Anyone else on the list know of such an occurence?
>>
>> joe salerno
>>
>> David Lennick wrote:
>>> When an AFRS transcription shows a date in the land, which other sources 
>>> confirm to be the original broadcast date, is it safe to assume that this may 
>>> have nothing to do with the actual date of cutting or dubbing? I've been 
>>> transferring several "Date with the Duke" programs, some of which show dates 
>>> and others showing "dubbed" (meaning pieced together from leftovers), but in a 
>>> couple of cases with dates, there are songs inserted which the band didn't play 
>>> till a couple of months later.
>>>
>>> (Related question: Did the AFRS producers have a bet to see how many times they 
>>> could insert the execrable Kay Davis massacring "Yesterdays"? I swear I've 
>>> heard it six times so far. What was the deal with her anyway..did she come out 
>>> naked?)
>>>
>>> dl
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