[78-L] 78-L Digest, Vol 3, Issue 90

[Nigel Burlinson]

For many internet years (principally using the site 
http://settlet.fateback.com/discography.html )
I have been trying to compile a NUMERIC listing of Columbia/ARC matrix 
numbers in the series
140XXX to 152772 and I agree with the remarks you make.  It seems to have 
been that at the end
of June/beginning of July 1934 that the 140000 series (which had reached 
152772 at that point)
series was dropped in favour of the Plaza/ARC series which had started 
around February 1923 (5001)
and by this time had reached 15381 (Wilmouth Houdini - July 2 1934).

Columbia continued to use this series (primarily for recordings originating 
in New York)
for many years, certainly up to the early 1970's.


Nigel Burlinson
PS I don't have the Columbia Master Books, unfortunately!



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>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re:  Bunny Berigan on Brunswick 7784 "Where Are You?"
>      (Michael Biel)
>   2. Re:  Testing ^ (Steven C. Barr)
>   3. Re:  Xmas Music (Steven C. Barr)
>   4. Re:  Bing's WHITE XMAS (David Lennick)
>   5. Re:  Dubbed contemporary matrix questions (Columbia related).
>      (Steven C. Barr)
>   6. Re:  Bunny Berigan on Brunswick 7784 "Where Are You?"
>      (Tyrone Settlemier)
>   7. Re:  Dubbed contemporary matrix questions (Columbia related).
>      (Steven C. Barr)
>   8. Re:  Bing's WHITE XMAS (Randy Watts)
>   9. Re:  Transferring 78s to CD (Steve Ramm)
>  10. Re:  Bing's WHITE XMAS (David Lennick)
>  11. Re:  Electronic stereo and Schwann (was: Dubbed contemporary
>      matrix questions (Columbia related). (djwein at earthlink.net)
>  12. Re:  Christmas Music (Dnjchi at aol.com)
>  13. Re:  Dubbed contemporary matrix questions (Columbia related).
>      (Royal Pemberton)
>  14. Re:  Dubbed contemporary matrix questions (Columbia related).
>      (David Lennick)
>  15.  Washboard Serenaders (SoundThink at aol.com)
>  16. Re:  Bunny Berigan on Brunswick 7784 "Where Are You?"
>      (Michael Biel)
>  17. Re:  Dubbed contemporary matrix questions (Columbia related).
>      (Royal Pemberton)
>  18. Re:  Dubbed contemporary matrix questions (Columbia related).
>      (David Lennick)
>  19. Re:  Dubbed contemporary matrix questions (Columbia related).
>      (Royal Pemberton)
>  20. Re:  Christmas Music (Jack  Palmer)
>  21. Re:  Christmas Music (Michael Biel)
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Those Beatles tracks are always fun to listen to!
>
> BTW, the last matrix I know of in the 140XXX/150XXX range is 152772,
> 'If it ain't love' by Chick Webb which was issued on Okeh 41571 and
> others, recorded 6th July 1934.
>
> The last of the lot released on Columbia itself is 152768, 'Born to be
> kissed' by Ben Selvin, recorded 28 June 1934 and released on 2936-D.
>
> Several earlier numbers plus a pair of imported sides make up the next
> few issues in the D series.  The first issue bearing matrix numbers in
> the ARC series is 2940-D, Johnny Green's orchestra performing two
> numbers from STUDENT TOUR, 'A new moon is over my shoulder' (CO 15620)
> and 'By the Taj Mahal' (CO 15621), recorded 13 August 1934.
>
> Those aren't the lowest of these numbers in the series though.
> Numerical pride of place belongs to Phil Regan's vocal versions of
> those same two songs, 'Taj Mahal' (CO 15541-A) and 'New moon' (CO
> 15542-B) that appear on 2948-D, recorded a week earlier on 6th August
> 1934.  (Strange, but true:  This record's matrix numbers have those
> letter suffixes to indicate the take numbers, and the lead out grooves
> are the concentric type such as would be seen on a 1932 or 1933
> Columbia record, and not the later, more recent eccentric type.  At
> least on my copy!)
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> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:59:43 -0500
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
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> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>>
>> BTW, the last matrix I know of in the 140XXX/150XXX range is 152772,
>> 'If it ain't love' by Chick Webb which was issued on Okeh 41571 and
>> others, recorded 6th July 1934.
>
> By golly, he's right..that's the last listing in the Columbia Master Books
> Volume III (10-inch discs, 1924-34).
>
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> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:44:38 +0000
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> I have no idea.  The data I quoted came off Tyrone's site.
>
> On 12/29/08, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Nope..the Columbia books show only the Columbia matrix numbers, not the 
>> ARC
>> ones, and Ross Laird's Brunswick books stop when Brunswick becomes part 
>> of
>> ARC.
>> Is this gap covered anywhere?
>>
>> The Columbia books leave an even more infuriating gap in the twelve inch
>> masters by cutting off in 1931, even though activity continued through 
>> '34.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>>> Is there any record (no pun intended) of what was done in that same
>>> studio across that one-month interval, between 7 July and 6 August?
>>> (I don't have any ARC items on any of their labels recorded in this
>>> same period, to have any idea of when Brunswick or the other labels
>>> began to have matrices recorded with the Columbia equipment.)
>>>
>>> On 12/29/08, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>>>>> BTW, the last matrix I know of in the 140XXX/150XXX range is 152772,
>>>>> 'If it ain't love' by Chick Webb which was issued on Okeh 41571 and
>>>>> others, recorded 6th July 1934.
>>>> By golly, he's right..that's the last listing in the Columbia Master
>>>> Books
>>>> Volume III (10-inch discs, 1924-34).
>>>>
>>